"...for a bird of the air will carry your voice, or some winged creature tell the matter..." --Ecclesiastes 10:20

Who is this mysterious winged creature? Light hearted as the air, she laughes at world, the wise, and herself - but watch out if you tread on the humble or the meek. You may find This Winged Creature has told the matter...

Tue Nov 15, 2005

That Small Still Voice... [Speaking Just for Me....]


This is an entry about religion. I'm saying so now, so that if you don't want to read about religion you can just skip me for today and go read somebody else.

You see, that's how I am about religion, and almost everything else. I personally have a core belief that I identified as a little child watching Captain Kangaroo. There used to be this animated sequence that came on with a sea shell singing the theme song from the 1960's move Father Goose "If you don't happen to like me pass me by..."

When that song would come on, I would sing along with it. I was glad that there was someone else in the world who felt like I did and had taken the trouble to write the song lyrics. I couldn't understand why people were so intent on changing each other. What difference did it make to my teacher what kind of notebook I carried or to my classmates if I held my hands in prayer the way the old people did, not clasped together the way younger people did? People did things all day long that I didn't think were right, that got on my nerves. I just walked away, picked up a book and read it. I didn't understand people who did otherwise.

So, since God gave me this personality type - and it is a minority personality type - it's not surprising that I have felt very little call to evangelize, though I do work very hard to try to make my life an example of good Christianity. Speaking just for me, I have found this quite difficult. There may be people in the world who are qualified to tell other people what God wants them to do, but I am not one of them. And, having the personality type that I do, I tend to feel that there are very few people in the world who have the moral weight to truly teach.

Yet, there is another way of looking at the calling to speak out.

Recently, I had an enlightening conversation with my brother. Now, anyone who knows us can hardly help but be aware that our personality types are very different. But his deepest values are similar to mine - no big surprise. We were raised by the same parents in the same house, and faced many of the same life shaping experiences hand in hand - sometimes literally.

While my brother has always been quicker to action, more outspoken, and more outgoing than I am it's important for me to say that I feel that he DOES have the moral weight to speak on issues of faith, and I have deep respect for him.

After all, my brother is not some priviledged white man in an expensive suit who had every material thing handed to him. He's qualified to talk the talk since for years he's been walking the walk - and he's currently out of a job due to his unwillingness to put up with fraud in his last place of employment.

I wouldn't go so far as to say you could look at him and know what Jesus would do, but I'd go out on a limb and say that you could have a pretty good idea of what St.Peter would do. Their personality types are very much alike....and indeed, sometimes when I used to read the Bible as a child, I'd hear Peter in my brother's voice.

My brother is much more of a "conservative" than I am. That is, the social issues that he feels are important are different from the social issues that I feel are important. He's a Republican. He considers himself a part of the religious right.

I don't want to get into the specifics of our conversation, because I worry that might distract from what I am trying to say. But, at one point in our conversation, I had an insight into his viewpoint that I had never had before.

And at that point, I heard that still, small voice in my heart telling me something....and I knew that I was going to have to do something difficult for me. You know the story of the still, small voice? Well, this is how it goes: "...And he said, 'Go forth and stand upon the mount before the Lord.' And behold, the Lord passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and broke in pieces the rocks before the Lord, but the Lord was not in the wind; and after the wind an earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake; and after the earthquake a fire, but the Lord was not in the fire; and after the fire a still, small voice. And when Elijah heard it, he wrapped his face in his mantle and went out and stood at the entrance of the cave. And, behold, there came a voice to him, and said,'What are you doing here, Elijah?'" 1 Kings:11-13 RSV

If you ever hear it, you know it's serious. If you ever hear it, it would never enter your mind to ignore it. And any time I have ever heard it, it has been filled with patience, gentleness, and compassion - thankfully, or I'm sure that I would otherwise drop dead on the spot. If you ever hear it, it will change your life. And this time, this is what I heard:

"You are very careful, and you do well not to argue. You do well to seek to understand. But if you seek to understand those people who are furthest away from me, will you not now seek to understand your brother who is close me as well as close to you? And as you seek to explain the thoughts of others to those whose ways of thinking are yet more different still, will you not explain his experience, though it is very different from yours?"

Oh boy. So, that's what I've been trying to do. So far I have written this blog entry about 8 times, all to try to get to these points which my brother made.

He says that many conservative Christians feel that their views are not met with the same kinds of tolerance as other views in our society. While people may respect a Muslim woman who covers her head out of her belief that God wants her to do so ( even though they don't think she should do so, and they're not about to cover their head themselves)the same people don't respect a Christian person's right to have a "message" button on their jacket. He feels that the Muslim is met with respect - and if she isn't someone like me will step up to the plate to defend her, but the Christian is met with derision, and someone like me will encourage the Christian to "get over it"

He is aware that "spokemen" for the Christian right often come accross very poorly. He is aware that, if they are trying to do outreach, they need to do a better job of it. But he sees them as imperfect messengers of an important message. His study of the Bible, the text of which he believes is the ultimate authority on what is right and wrong, has lead him to fear for innocent people about whom he is concerned. When I asked him what possible relevance the Old Testement could have in the modern world now that Christ has risen, he said, "The New Testement is the new covenent with those who have accepted Him. Those who haven't may still be subject to the old law. We have nothing that tells us otherwise" ( and since I'm now not speaking just for me, but trying to illuminate his views, I'll let that stand)" If you saw someone about to do something that was terribly wrong - something that was truly offensive to God and harmful to the person who was doing it, wouldn't you speak out to try to stop them? Would you really spend a lot of time saying, 'oh, I'm not articulate enough' or ' I don't have enough experience'? "

And then I realized that unless I was directly compelled to do so ( and I was, one time, but that's another story for another blog) I would not speak out. I would say it is between the person and The Lord. But, he says that there are people who view things differently. They're not worried about having the credentials. They speak out of great love and concern, and hope that people will look past their poor delivery and past mistakes. They are aware that people in the secular world do not see the Bible as the ultimate authority. But it's because of their humility, rather than their arrogance, that they cite Biblical text, even if that text can then be debated.

And though they get tired of thought of as being uneducated or badly informed, they are willing to keep on being thought of that way, rather than break with what the understand as the Truth. This is their faith, and for it, they only want to have enough room in the world to carry it with them. They feel they are not shouting down people who disagree with them. They feel that they are shouting to be heard by anybody at all, not just dismissed because they're loud and haven't been to Harvard.

"You just see some white guy in a tie, and he could be saying anything. You won't listen to him, because his suit is too expensive, so you've dismissed him as someone who doesn't meet your standards of what it means to be Christ-like. Isn't that as much a prejudice as anything else?"

Yes, it is. If I've ever dismissed someone speaking a message because he was too slick, too well dressed, too rich, than that's just as bad as failing to recognise someone because they are humble, shabby, and poor. It may be easier for a camel the pass through the eye of a needle for than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of heaven, but maybe they need all the more compassion and help because of it. I admit I never gave it that much thought before.

These were my brother's points as I understood them ( and I hope he will write and tell us if I have not explained them clearly)

We now return you to your regular Winged Creature.

If you decide to have a debate here, you're welcome to do it in pursuit of the truth, but please be kind to one another. My head already hurts from getting around a different viewpoint. You might want to try it a little. After all, no pain, no gain.


Posted by Ginga Cool Cat at 10:40 AM | Comment on this entry

Comments

Tea - you know I am not a religious person, but a philosophical one. That is not to say that I am anti-religious or areligious. Nor does it invalidate my studies of the historical facts of Christian tradition.

Fundamentalist and evangelical Christians are viewed by outside communities in a negative light primarily because of their adversarial relationships with non-fundamentalists. If it were simply a matter of trying to bring people closer to God and Christian values, I have a fair amount of leeway I am willing to grant toward other aspects with which I don't agree.

However, fundamentalism (Christian, Islamic, whatever) has at its heart an intolerance for other expressions of faith. There is ONE correct interpretation, one truth - all others are false and lead to damnation. I, however, find it hard to believe that the Christian Bible as translated in 1611 and approved by James I is infallible and complete. God himself did not place pen to paper and write that document. The Christian Bible as it stands today is the result of hundreds of years of oral tradition and underground word-of-mouth (the years of Christian persecution by the Romans), transcribed into Hebrew and Greek texts, translated to Greek from Hebrew, cherry-picked by the early Gnostic and Catholic traditions, translated into Latin and eventually the local vernacular. That's a whole lot of human fudge-factor.

The only qualification in the Old Testament and Gospels for redemption is the acceptance of God and his incarnations as Lord and Saviour. The trend in fundamentalist Christian doctrine that has been gaining the loudest voice, however, is APOCALYPTIC Christianity which subverts that broad qualification with an interpretation of the Christian message based on a text which many now argue should never have been part of the Apocrypha (The Revelation of St. John). It is this division of the saved and unsaved (which goes against the message of an all-forgiving, all-loving Chris) that engenders the division between conservative fundamentalist Christianity.

I don't believe in the apocalyptic interpretation of the Christian doctrine. I believe that the Bible is an inspired text, inherently flawed through human intervention and interpretation, as well as greatly limited. However, "conservative" or fundamentalist Christianity is openly hostile to that viewpoint. Such a discussion would be met with either contempt (blasphemy, "sinful") or sanctimonious pity. The "we're just concerned for everyone's spiritual well-being" line is another way of saying "we're right, you're wrong, and we feel real bad that you're gonna burn." And when that exact attitude starts seeding itself into politics, you can't wonder why the folks who don't swing that way get a little testy.

I find it very hard to believe that God can forgive a murderer, rapist, wife-beater, or whatever, but can't (for example) forgive a man who loves another man.

Posted by: Rob at November 16, 2005 12:18 AM

errr... Substitute "areligious" with "aspiritual" in my previous response.

BTW - dammit, Tea... between this, Will's oil post, tonight's movie (Hotel Rwanda), and other stuff that I'm working on, I'm completely intellectually overstimulated. Now I can't get to sleep. Grrrr.

I guess for the next couple hours, it'll be me, the couch, and Sears' "Landscape Turned Red: The Battle of Antietam."

Posted by: Rob at November 16, 2005 1:10 AM

Hi Rob,
I see that you are reading Landscape Turned Red. That is the best book on Lee's first invasion of the North and on the battle of Antietam ever written (that reminds me, I need to get his new book on Gettysburg). I hope that you are enjoying it. I would also suggest Crossroads of Freedom: Antietam by James M McPherson. CoF:A is more about the social, cultural and political events surrounding Antietam than the actual battle, but it serves to put the battle in the proper perspective.
Peace,
--Will

Posted by: Will Burnham at November 16, 2005 9:20 AM

Lynn,

I'm glad that we got to talk on Saturday and I'm happy to read your comments. From reading your blog it seems that you got most of what I was trying to articulate. Basically, I believe that as a Christian I am viewed as unenlightened and stupid because I believe that much of what our society has deemed as appropriate is plainly inappropriate according to the Bible. I knew going into giving my life to Christ that I would be living a life in this world, but not living of this world so coming across ridicule isn't a big surprise to me, but it does hurt me just the same. Opinions abound on topics of faith as they always have. During my search for the truth, which you'll recall started about twenty years ago, I found many different beliefs. However, in no other faith did anyone bear my sins and die for me so that I may be saved for God's kingdom for eternity. I don't know the mind of God--no one here does. What I do know is that since giving up my self-centered life for a God-centered one I have seen the hand of God working in my life and I've changed drastically because of it. I continue to change daily in ways that are unimaginable. To those folks who feel differently about God and what Jesus did for them by dying on the cross, I would encourage them to ask God, with an open heart, for Him to show them the truth. There is no substitute for experience and to know what I'm refering to here I would encourage those who are interested to persevere in getting to know God themselves.

Thanks for letting me comment!

With love,
Glenn

Posted by: yobruva at November 16, 2005 2:02 PM